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Group: DynoMotion Message: 29 From: Azd Md Date: 8/25/2009
Subject: encoder channels on kanalog not working
Hi All
I am using Kflop+ kanalog with 4.12 frimware. However, the encoder channels on channel 1 is not working. i checked the Digital I/O its in the input state. B1 pin is always High A1 channel is blinking as i rotate the encoder.
i checked my encoder signal with the osciliscope several times it is working. Before Channel 0 and 2 are working now no more. 
i measured the output of the Y pins on the 26ls32 chip on the Kanalog. it is fixed High. i grounded A+ and A-, still i am getting High output.
is there any clue.
Regrads
Azeddien


--- On Thu, 6/25/09, TKSOFT <tk@...> wrote:

From: TKSOFT <tk@...>
Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: KFlop Takes so long to start
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 12:34 PM

Hi Azd,

How long do they Flash? With a USB connected and no application running they should flash for ~ 3 seconds. With no USB cable connected they should flash for ~1 second.

Does the board ever connect and work?
TK

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogro ups.com, Azd Md <azken98@... > wrote:
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> Hi All,
> I am using Kflop withe the latest Firmware. the problem the cars green leds flashes for so long time, and i have to switch on and off the power to get it working.
> Is there any thing i can do to have it starts fast?
> Thank you all
> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, TK <tk@...> wrote:
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> Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 3:01 PM
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Group: DynoMotion Message: 30 From: TK Date: 8/25/2009
Subject: Re: encoder channels on kanalog not working

Hi Azeddien,

 

The way differential signals work is that you must put one input high and the other low to control the output.  Putting the + signal at +5V and the – signal at ground should cause the differential output to be high.  Putting the + signal at ground and the – signal at +5V should cause the differential output to be low.

 

Putting both inputs at the same voltage (ground) will not necessarily drive the output high or low.

 

There is a 470 Ohm terminating resistor between the + and – inputs, so your encoder must be able to drive this load.  Most will.

 

Let us know what you find.

 

Regards,

 TK

 

 

 

Group: DynoMotion Message: 31 From: Azd Md Date: 8/26/2009
Subject: Re: encoder channels on kanalog not working
Thankyou  Mr. TK  very much for ur immediate response, however i have another question; what is the maximum number of axes i can have with Kflop+ kanalog boards. considering encoder as feedback. is it 4 axes or 8 axes. if  8 axes as staed in the Kflop specifcation, how to activate axes 5-7.
regards

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, TK <tk@...> wrote:

From: TK <tk@...>
Subject: RE: [DynoMotion] encoder channels on kanalog not working
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 1:00 PM

 

Hi Azeddien,

 

The way differential signals work is that you must put one input high and the other low to control the output.  Putting the + signal at +5V and the – signal at ground should cause the differential output to be high.  Putting the + signal at ground and the – signal at +5V should cause the differential output to be low.

 

Putting both inputs at the same voltage (ground) will not necessarily drive the output high or low.

 

There is a 470 Ohm terminating resistor between the + and – inputs, so your encoder must be able to drive this load.  Most will.

 

Let us know what you find.

 

Regards,

 TK

 

 

 


From: DynoMotion@yahoogro ups.com [mailto: DynoMotion@yahoogro ups.com ] On Behalf Of Azd Md
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:39 PM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [DynoMotion] encoder channels on kanalog not working

 

 

Hi All
I am using Kflop+ kanalog with 4.12 frimware. However, the encoder channels on channel 1 is not working. i checked the Digital I/O its in the input state. B1 pin is always High A1 channel is blinking as i rotate the encoder.
i checked my encoder signal with the osciliscope several times it is working. Before Channel 0 and 2 are working now no more. 
i measured the output of the Y pins on the 26ls32 chip on the Kanalog. it is fixed High. i grounded A+ and A-, still i am getting High output.
is there any clue.
Regrads
Azeddien


--- On Thu, 6/25/09, TKSOFT <tk@dynomotion. com> wrote:


From: TKSOFT <tk@dynomotion. com>
Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: KFlop Takes so long to start
To: DynoMotion@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 12:34 PM

Hi Azd,

How long do they Flash? With a USB connected and no application running they should flash for ~ 3 seconds. With no USB cable connected they should flash for ~1 second.

Does the board ever connect and work?
TK

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogro ups.com, Azd Md <azken98@... > wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
> I am using Kflop withe the latest Firmware. the problem the cars green leds flashes for so long time, and i have to switch on and off the power to get it working.
> Is there any thing i can do to have it starts fast?
> Thank you all
> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, TK <tk@...> wrote:
>
> From: TK <tk@...>
> Subject: [DynoMotion] V4.11 Released
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 3:01 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Download KMotion
> Version 4.11 - 2/18/09 (KMotion 
> AND KFLOP) New*
>
> 6
> axes Coordinated Motion now supported
>
> New
> Selectable Screen Faces for KMotionCNC
>
> http://www.dynomoti on.com/Help/ KMotionCNC/ KMotionCNC. htm
>
> Changes/Fixes from 4.10 - 4.11 - Details
>
> Note: after
> downloading a new version, Flash new firmware into KMotion using the
> Config/Flash - New Version function.
>
>  
>

 


Group: DynoMotion Message: 32 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 8/26/2009
Subject: Re: encoder channels on kanalog not working
Hi Azeddien,
 
KFlop currently only contains 4 single ended quadtrature encoder counters.  Kanalog converts these to 8 differential inputs.
 
The 8 remaining differential inputs may only be used as general purpose inputs such as Z index.
 
So KFlop+Kanalog only supports 4 encoders as feedback.
 
Adding a SnapAmp will add 4 more differential quadrature encoder inputs or you might use the other 4 KFlop axis channels as Step/Dir drives.
 
We do have plans to add more encoder counters to KFlop (They need to be instanciated in the FPGA).
 
Do you need more than 4 now?
 
Regards
TK
 
 

Group: DynoMotion Message: 33 From: Azd Md Date: 8/26/2009
Subject: Re: encoder channels on kanalog not working
Hi Tom,
I am working on robot project where six axes of encoder feedback is needed.
I will try with SanpAmp. however, if there is one board with six encoder channels, the that is will be better. any suggestion?
regards
Azeddien
 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:

From: Tom Kerekes <tk@...>
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] encoder channels on kanalog not working
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 11:46 PM

 
Hi Azeddien,
 
KFlop currently only contains 4 single ended quadtrature encoder counters.  Kanalog converts these to 8 differential inputs.
 
The 8 remaining differential inputs may only be used as general purpose inputs such as Z index.
 
So KFlop+Kanalog only supports 4 encoders as feedback.
 
Adding a SnapAmp will add 4 more differential quadrature encoder inputs or you might use the other 4 KFlop axis channels as Step/Dir drives.
 
We do have plans to add more encoder counters to KFlop (They need to be instanciated in the FPGA).
 
Do you need more than 4 now?
 
Regards
TK
 
 

Group: DynoMotion Message: 34 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 8/26/2009
Subject: Re: encoder channels on kanalog not working
Azeddien,
 
Let us see if we can add more encoder channel to KFlop.
It will probably take a week or two.
 
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 35 From: Azd Md Date: 8/26/2009
Subject: Re: encoder channels on kanalog not working
It would be great. Send me the quotation for 1 Kflop and the new board as soon as it is available.
Thanks
Azeddien
 
--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:

From: Tom Kerekes <tk@...>
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] encoder channels on kanalog not working
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:32 AM

 
Azeddien,
 
Let us see if we can add more encoder channel to KFlop.
It will probably take a week or two.
 
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 36 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 8/26/2009
Subject: Re: encoder channels on kanalog not working
Azeddien,
 
You won't need to buy a new board.  It is a firmware change.
 
I'll let you know.  Thanks.
 
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 37 From: Azd Md Date: 8/26/2009
Subject: Re: encoder channels on kanalog not working
Oh that is really great. we are going to buy another set anyway.
thanks
Azeddien

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:

From: Tom Kerekes <tk@...>
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] encoder channels on kanalog not working
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:41 AM

 
Azeddien,
 
You won't need to buy a new board.  It is a firmware change.
 
I'll let you know.  Thanks.
 
TK